What happened to myradiostream.com - Cannot get to stream

[dataman19]

Gavin,
What's going on at myradiostream.com
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I came in to my IP Radio Room and the listening computer was parked at http://www.myradiostream.com In search engine mode - the IP stream and player has been replaced by a search engine?
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I have to download and subscribe to another site to listen to my stream? Worse I must now download an application and physically search for up to two hours to find my stream?
Even worse - How do I log into the s6 stream console? I can't even do that.... (because I have to first sign up at myradiostream.com and search for the stream (port 31840), if I find it it defaults to the http://www.myradiostream.com front end where I have the options of a)Entertainment b) Music Downloads c) Watch Movies
On the second row I can a1) DVDs and Videos b1) Watch TV On Line c1) Video Games
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So where do I log in to the console to restart the server (which is perpetually off-on-off anyway)???
Have you changed the log in console to manage the stream ports?
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I already have eMails from three associates (who are also listeners) who are complaining that my streams have been removed - is this true?
If they haven't been removed - then where are they?
I can't see them anymore, and I can't get to the restart console.
I see on my SAM Machine where one is on-line and one is off line (but I cannot restart it???).
I know s1 is down (has been for about a week - I give up on S1) But I wouldn't be able to logg in and restart it even if it came back up....
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I have:
UK1-FREE.MIXSTREAM.NET - 55830.htm
Stream: http://s1.myradiostream.com/55830.htm
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UK6-FREE.MIXSTREAM.NET
Stream: http://s6.myradiostream.com/31840.htm
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UK11-FREE.MIXSTREAM.NET
Stream: http://s11.myradiostream.com/14004.htm
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Only one is actually streaming... s6 shows it is streaming on the SAM Box and the relay is reporting off-line (this is normal for s6, usually it means it is down and the on-line monitor will show it down within the hour. s6 is after all up for an hour or two, then down for an hour or two.) I cannot log in to restart it - because I cannot find the log in console anymore.....
s11 is on line and streaming (but that will probably change in the next hour or so (s11 usually drops out at about 3PM local time - Phoenix, AZ time. I usually have to log in to the console and just restart it every day about this time... Today.... well... I guess we'll just have to wait and see....
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So basically, I cannot restart any of the three streams - because I no longer have access to the log in console.... Since none of the listeners can now find the stream I am forced to just turn it off when the stream arbitrarily drops?
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So what is the fix?
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I understand the issues with people trying to load the streams without the advertisements. My listeners have complained that they don't like the ads - I have always told them that the ads were paying for the stream. So I understand your need for ad revenue.
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My concern is that I cannot, nor can any of my listener's - get to the streams... I can't even log in to restart them......
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Help...
Dave
Gallacticom
dmason@phoenixcomputerlabs.com

[dataman19]

Thanks Gavin, The s6 Domain is back up - it's just the stream server that is still giving me fits...
Now the s6 server is showing and I can log into the console...
But I cannot get the stream up... Did you change any of the settings????
I can log into the console, and I can reset the server (at least it says it's reset...)..
My Stream will not connect (even if I retype all the data into the Stream encoder - it just will not connect)...
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Now a new problem pop'd up...
Now s11 just died.....
It is also dead and says the domain has expired...
Ouch - this was my only working Stream... Now I might as well pack up and go... I'm dead with no streams working......
I just turned off all three stream computers (no use running if no one can get the streams)....
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Dave
Gallacticom
(or used to be Gallacticom)
Now only my two terrestrial FM feeds are up (KRPH and KTTZ)...
But IP is now dead....

[jorgeman10]

Its happening the same to me.... and Im at s11 server

It looks online, with the green light. But Im not listening anything, its just getting "Access Denied"
And if I go to the Statistics it only shows this:

Your server is offline

Some stats will not work when your server is offline. Click here to start your server.

I restart it, but nothing happens!

[dataman19]

Apparently it is domain renewal at Bell On-line....
s6 is working for me now...
But s11 is apparently still having DNS issues..
From Past experience - when a domain expires and the hosting is suspended (instead of just parked) DNS resolution is irratic for at least 72-hours (since the domain was shut off it takes up to 72-hours for Web Routers to renew the router tables worldwide).
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The internet is managed by router tables, the DNS (Domain name Server) is distributed among at least 14 servers (mirrors). They all link to each other and compare databases. When a domain is shut off it is updated as a inactive (and tends to remain so for at least 24-hours). If you renew a domain and are on the same ISP server (sub domain) you may see it almost immediately, but if you are on a separate ISP (even in the same town) it may not show up for 24 hours as active.
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Should you happen to be in a different country (some times even a different state in the same country( it could take from 48-72 hours to show up as accessible). So we will just have to wait patiently for another 24-hours and see what happens...
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Info: No one router or server actually sees the whole internet. The internet is inter linked routers. The routers only see the routers directly connected (linked) to them. They also have the ability to share router tables with other routers directly connected to them. The DNS numbering system is a)Region b) Country c) Country Sub-Net d) Sub net sub net (this is where the major ISP's are), then e) third sub net address (this is the final IP). Actual individual IPs are assigned by DHCP servers which give out dynamic IPs from each ISP entry point. The actual DNS (Domain Name Server) is a translation to IP done at the DNS servers.
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All this is self healing, meaning if the route IP is known then IP packets are broadcasts to that IP. When a person clicks on a web link, or types an Web Address Domain into their computer, the web browser cosults the DNS server, which gives the actual IP for that domain. Then an IP request (ping) is sent to the domain IP address (the numbered address)- this is when you get a message such as "looking up....." or "attempting to connect to...." message. Once received, the ping is acknowledged by the web server and sent back to the requesting computer. Then your browser actually requests the page (or HTTP code, etc) - this is when you get the "connecting to...." message in your browser window. Once packets start arriving you get "loading". The trick is to understand that all packets do not always arrive at the same time (but all packets are serialy numbered at sending end). As packets arrive they are placed into the IP virtual memory stack. As enough arrive to start displaying the page requested they start appearing on screen. Hint, most web pages are set up to load 1st level text and titles first, graphics second (which includes banners) and then final text data last. Depending on how the web HTML, CSS or Java Code is written determines the actual load scheme. In the early days we wrote code to load partial (fuzzy) first, then clarify... In this scenario you would see that page magically appear, first in a fuzzy image that would sharpen as the page loaded. It seemed that people liked to see progress (ever heard of the 11-second rule - this is where it came from "If people don't see progress in the first 11 seconds the hit the refresh button or go to another link".
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So I guees we will have to wait and see if DNS stabilizes within the next 24-hours.....
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By the way - How do I know this (I believe it is common knowledge). Besides I was one of the original working group members of the ARPANET (the original Inter net), DDN (the Defense Information Data Network - the prototype for the current global-commercial internet)and USIEN (University Science and Information Exchange Network - the actual "official" Global Public Internet). We had a lot of working group meetings mulling over the "public access" issues of Internet accessibility. We also published a lot op papers and position papers on everything - you can not imagine the quagmire of interoperability until you get all these adolescent minded agencies crying that all this traffic running across their mainframes is unfair - yet scream even louder when one of their associates links are down. It was like dealing with kindegardeners...Basically we had the DDN, USIEN and the founders of Compu Serve, Prodigy, and America On-Line. Most of the Pioneer Internet ISPs were actually affiliated with universities early on. Compu Serve and Prodigy were absorbed by America On-Line, which was bought my Time Warner Communications. Later Earthlink, Heartland Data Networks and a few others were added. Time Warner also bought Heartland Data Networks -a Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi Newtwork made up of Fiber Optic and Microwave Relays links (- I know because that was my baby) back in 1994.. The university computers and Department of defense computer networks (which used to be global) were all inter linked some time in the mid 1980's. At that time Internet access belonged only to those entities that were connected to other entities, and were willing to maintain their links and not limit or restrict data through put (basically, they were part of the network and as such agrreed to pass all traffic through their servers). So basically to have internet access, you had to provide connectivity for "the Net". So it was a elite club. The development of Hyper-Text Transport Language (http) allowed for more transparent networking (the internet is based upon the UNIX Operating Environment, and Router Tables - now we have Lynux - which is a hot rod version of UNIX). HTTP allowed for pages to be formatted for universal display, not to mention the availability to include that holy grail of internet function "active hyperlinks".
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The internet went commercial in the 1990's and hasn't slowed down one bit. It isn't owned by any one government or social class. It really isn't regulated (this is a debatable issue because many large ISPs do actively filter content and access - something which tends to hinder the free access rule).
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Hence the DNS Name server system (which has never been used to it's full potential yet). The very weakness is the DNS systems mirrors, which are supposed to ease traffic congestion and provide for redundancy. The problem is they are like credit reporting agencies. They are always sharing data, and other DNS mirrors tend to repeat inactive notices even after a Domain that was shut off becomes reactivated. So the schenario can go for days, ie:
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Day One 00:00:05 Domain XXYZ.COM (IP Address XXXX.XX.XXX.XX.XXX) Inactive....
Day One 00:07:35 (Domain XXYZ.COM P Address XXXX.XX.XXX.XX.XXX) Active (local host only)
Day One 00:19:49 Domain XXYZ.COM (IP Address XXXX.XX.XXX.XX.XXX) Active, DNS Mirror XXX.XX.XXX.XX (region 5 Update).
Day two 01:23:59 (Domain XXYZ.COM P Address XXXX.XX.XXX.XX.XXX) Active as of 00:07:35ZDNS3A1 (this message is the DNS Global Update Flash Update that happens at 23:59Z every day) Problem - DNS Region 2 Mirror is down.... didn't get the DNS flash Update (and remains down until about 9AM Zulu)
Day two 01:09:15 Region 3 Mirror Update Interlink "Domain XXYZ.COM (IP Address XXXX.XX.XXX.XX.XXX) Inactive as of 00:00:05 Router Request Update Failed DNS Reconciliation...(this is the Region two DNS Mirror Telling the region 7 Mirror that they are attempting to send IP traffic to an address that is inactive.) DNS now updates and flashes the update to all Mirrors (now the DNS adddress is again dead until the 23:59 Zulu Router table update (23+ hours away).
Day two 01:23:59 (Domain XXYZ.COM P Address XXXX.XX.XXX.XX.XXX) Active as of 00:07:35ZDNS3A1 (reporting to all DNS Mirrors that the Domain Name is now active in the DNS)
Problem - now the Region 3 DNS Mirror is down and it doesn't get the update. But it did get the DNS Error from region 2 at 01:09:15 and has a flagg in it's DNS table that Domain XXYZ.com is in error....
Day three - DNS issues continue since Domain XXYZ.com's IP address is not in region 3 - but people in region 3 are getting invalid DNS returns from the region 3 DNS Mirror.
Day 3 02:23:59 DNS-E-U-R3 (Domain XXYZ.COM P Address XXXX.XX.XXX.XX.XXX) Active as of 00:07:35ZDNS3A1E (this DNS flash is resent to all DNS Mirrors because Region 3 DNS Mirror is transmitting DNS Errors about this domain IP Pings in its hourly error table log. the 00:07:35Z states the activation time, DNS3A1E is a force update table header informing DNS Mirror region 3 that it has updated its DNS Registry Tables based upon a false error return in the DNS Mirror System.
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This is why it is not good to let a domain expire... ISPs use the expiration function as retaliation to teach domain holders a lesson. Even though the domains actually stay in the DNS for up to 60-days past (a fact) - the IPSs or Web Hosts force this by updating a domain as inactive instead of parked. Mainly, obviously to teach the domain owner a lesson. The DNS system will, do this automatically (after the 60th day period of known expiration/renewal date).
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I can register domains, and have DNS update authority. I can also point to over 100 domains that have no expiration date listed (they are cleverly listed as "next Update" or "Indefinite" - the use of "Domain Expiration:" is not mandatory. It's just the term widely adopted). If an expiration date is entered the domain will cease to function within 60 days of that date unless it is changed at least 86 hours prior. If a "next update" or "indefinite" date is given, the system will not do anything.
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But then people get paid to update domains - don't they? I believe the going rate is about $10.00-$20.00 a year? So it's a clever system (But I remember when it didn't coast anything - hence we have people who are camped on domains. Which is exactly why they went to a monetary system. Incidentally, the 100 or so i mentioned to have knowledge of - they were all registered before the monetary system was put into place. Since they are "indefinite" they don't pay, at least until "indefinite" arrives....at which time they will have to pay a renewal...)
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Also you can register a domain for more than one year... A fact a that many people with domain names are unaware of. And registering a domain name does not mean that you actually own it (it can be refuted by someone with a "registered" Trademark for that name, or that can show legal reason why they are more legally entitled to it).. So watch out my clever friends....
Dave Mason

[Gavin]

Yes, we were 2 hours late renewing the domain and it caused the site to go down for a lot of people and be replaced with that message! Everything should be back to normal for the vast majority of users.

[dataman19]

Thanks Gavin..
Dave